What Do You Mean By That?
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What Do You Mean By That?
Join multi-ethnic co-hosts Sara + Misasha - two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends - as they help folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us. Whether it’s about science, history, current events, social justice, or more, their community consists of people who wan...
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10: Elie Mystal on Bad Laws, Big Truths, and How to Change the System
This episode is a must-listen for anyone who’s ever felt like legal talk is impossible to understand (👋 Sara included!). We’re joined by Elie Mystal...

09: The Devil Emails At Midnight, With Mita Mallick
Whether you’ve ever been a boss or have ever had a boss, you know how much those singular individuals can shape the workplace. According to studies,...

08: How to Be a Better Human: What WE Really Think
We had a very insightful superfan make a brilliant suggestion that we’re acting on, starting with this episode. David Gaines, author of Radical Busine...

07: How to Rest without Feeling Guilty
In our last episode of our series on how to be a better human, we’re talking about rest. Specifically, what do we mean by rest, and why is it so impor...

06: How To Be a Better Democrat, with Megan Imperial
Maybe these are some questions you’ve asked yourself, as we’ve moved from the election of 2024 to the present: Where the heck are the Democrats? What...

05: How We Can Build Trust In Times of Division, with Jan-Emmanuel de Neve
It’s not controversial to say that we are living in times of deep division, where there are so many forces keeping us apart, politics being a big part...

04: How to improve your critical thinking skills, with Colin Seale
Depending on who you are and where you get your news from, you may be seeing a completely separate version of the news from your neighbor down the str...

03: How to be Kinder (not Nicer), with Dr. Kelli Harding
This is Sara, and I remember the time 20 years ago when I got schooled by a psychoanalyst. It must have been the fall, because I was supremely agitat...

02: How to Become a Radical Listener, with Robert Biswas-Diener and Christian van Nieuwerburgh
One of the ways that we believe we can be better humans is to actually listen to each other - not just nod along when we watch people’s mouths move,...

01: Welcome to What Do You Mean By That?
We have a big announcement! We have rebranded and are now known as the podcast, What Do You Mean By That?
If you’ve listened to ou...

272: What Do We Mean by Therapy, and Culturally Responsive Care? with The Yellow Chair Collective
Raise your hand if you’ve been to therapy before. My first time, if I’m remembering correctly, is a few months after my Dad died when I was in my mid...

271: Having Unforgettable Presence, with Lorraine K. Lee
Picture a successful business leader, and experience says you’re most likely to be picturing a white male right now. Similarly, the realm of business...

270: Six Years Later, And (No Surprise Here) We’re Still Talking
By the time a human is six years old, they’re usually in formal schooling with wide-open minds, ready to learn. You’re learning that you can’t bring...

269: In Support of the Rule of Law, with Debbie Hines
Even if you’re not a lawyer, the challenge that this administration is mounting to the rule of law affects you, too. When the president challenges the...

268: How We Can Fight Book Bans in 2025
Between the time when we recorded this episode and this introduction, so many of our learning institutions, including the Department of Education and...

267: Don’t Let Yourself Be Gaslit By Our Two Presidents
Gaslighting. Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse that involves manipulating someone into questioning their sanity, memories, or perception o...

266: In Support of Transgender Lives with Schuyler Bailar
In the United States, there are an estimated 1.6 million people who identify as transgender, which is about 0.6% of the population ages 13 and older....

265: The United States Should Focus On Equality, with Steve Phillips
We need to be honest about our nation’s history - that we’ve always been a divided nation - if we’re going to be able to strengthen and maximize the f...

264: Trump 2.0: What This Might Mean For Women, Parents, And All of Us
Since every day since Trump’s second inauguration has likely brought a fresh onslaught of possibilities that range from the incomprehensibly absurd to...

263: How Are You Trump-Proofing Your Life?
We’ve arrived in 2025, and assuming President-Elect Trump is inaugurated, this means he will be the first president to take office convicted of felony...

262: Farewell 2024, Hello 2025
Tomorrow, we’ll be wishing our loved ones “akemashite omedetou gozaimasu” - or, Happy New Year, in Japanese. If you’re a long-time listener, you know...

261: How I Stopped Being a Model Minority, with Anne Anlin Cheng
Today’s episode seems to be addressing this question: does politics show up in our everyday lives? Maybe even in our most intimate relationships?

260: The Anti-Ableist Manifesto, with Tiffany Yu
There are SO many insightful conversations and incredible stories we’ve shared on this show, and this one was yet another example of one where we went...

259: Making and Maintaining Friendships, with Dr. Marisa G. Franco
We’ve had a lot of focus on this show leading into Election 2024 about the state of the country and the deep divides that we’re seeing in society. We...

258: (Why We) Vote For All Of Us
This is a short episode – about why we vote, and why we hold onto hope today and going forward – and it may be the episode that you need to hear today...

257: Abortion is About Women’s Health and Human Rights. Vote Like It.
When we first recorded this episode, we were at the end of the Trump presidency, when we still had a legal right to abortion in this country. Roe v. W...

256: Trump is Still a Liar, Including Project 2025: Why Harris is the Only Choice
Trump lies repeatedly. He’s shown us who he is. He’ll continue to try distancing himself from Project 2025 because it’s come under fire in public an...

255: Representation Matters, with Mona Das
You know how we both feel about the phrase “oh, stop being so political” for the simple reason that politics IS personal.
Political choices i...

254: How to Get Involved in the 2024 Election, with Sam Chavez
Trump lies repeatedly. He’s shown us who he is. He’ll continue to try distancing himself from Project 2025 because it’s come under fire in public an...

253: The Resilience Myth, with Soraya Chemaly
What comes to your mind when you picture someone who’s resilient? Usually, we hear that it’s one person who’s faced a setback, and they remain hopefu...

252: Unlearning Silence, with Elaine Lin Hering
Most of us say we’d speak up and do the right thing - that we’d not conform to horrible societal standards. We hear that, for example, when people sp...

251: Susie Clark: The Bravest Girl You’ve Ever Seen (And Probably Never Knew About)
We’re going to be sharing this episode today, which if you’re listening in real-time, is shortly after President Biden stepped aside, not accepting th...

250: Practical Optimism with Dr. Sue Varma
So we’ve spoken inspirationally and aspirationally about wellbeing, the power of the pause, about spirituality.
But what if my brain is still...

249: Healing Our Way Home
In the five-plus years of the podcast, I’d say that we have spent a LOT of time on various “hot button” issues - I mean, we live quite squarely in the...

248: For All Womxn, The Rested Rebel with Kibi Anderson
This one goes out to all the busy women in our community.
Whether you’re a Type-A, a Recovering Type-A, a paid working mom or a working mom in...

247: A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh
I don’t know that there’s a better book and conversation to kick off our summer author series with than this one.
We’ve said for a while now t...
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246: Why Trump Is Bad For [Y]OUR Wellbeing, Part II
This episode is a continuation of last week’s episode, so if you haven’t already listened to that one (it should be right above this one in your podca...
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245: Why Trump Is Bad For [Y]OUR Well-being, Part I
In our last episode, we went through reasons - issue by issue (not all of them, but a lot of them) - about why our freedom and democracy are at risk i...

244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away)
You know that person you know - the one who exaggerates everything?
It’s kind of like that story of the blameless “boy who cried wolf” who liv...

243: High Five, Friends - Where We’ve Been and Where We’re Going
This week marks the FIVE-YEAR anniversary of the Dear White Women podcast! That means we’ve outlasted almost all the other podcasts out there… like ya...