9 to 5ish with theSkimm
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9 to 5ish with theSkimm
The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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Phoebe Gates on Proving Herself Beyond Her Family Name
When Phoebe Gates started her company, Phia, her parents – yes, those Mr. and Mrs. Gates – wished her good luck and didn’t invest a penny. And while h...

Leah Garcia on Connecting the Gaps on Your Resumé
Leah Garcia’s career path has never been a straight line. It’s ben more like a rodeo loop. She grew up as the daughter of ranchers, went to college on...

Trinny Woodall on the Financial Reality of Being Self-Employed
Trinny Woodall went from recovering from addiction in her mid-20s to becoming one of the most beloved authorities in style and fashion. She landed a l...

Norma Kamali on What Happens When You Ask For Help
Norma Kamali started her career when women were expected to type memos in Mad Men-esque offices, not build their own empires. She came of age in 1960s...

Re-broadcast: Joanna Gaines on Learning to Let Go of Guilt and Anxiety
Author, businesswoman, designer, and chef Joanna Gaines used to let guilt and anxiety consume her. As a mom of five children, and as one half of one o...

Nili Lotan on Giving Herself Permission to be a Working Mom
Nili Lotan’s career didn’t begin on the runway. It started in corporate fashion, where she spent over two decades working at major brands like Ralph L...

Rebroadcast: Thasunda Brown Duckett on Living Your Life Like a Diversified Portfolio
Thasunda Brown Duckett, the President and CEO of TIAA, had a “meteoric rise” in the world of finance. As the former head of Chase Consumer Banking, an...

Argent Founder Sali Christeson on Reimagining the 9 to 5 Uniform
Sali Christeson actively suppressed her idea for Argent for years. She was killing it at her job at Cisco – she didn’t have time to start her own comp...

CNN’s Abby Phillip on Breaking Through Burnout
After every election she’s covered, Abby Phillip has the same thought: I can’t do this anymore. It’s her mind waving a red flag – and a sign of burnou...

Cathy Engelbert on Asking for (and Getting) What You Want at Work
When Cathy Engelbert found out she was pregnant, she resigned from a decades-long climb to becoming a partner at Deloitte. In her mind, being a good m...

Dawn Staley on Why the Journey Matters More than the Win
Dawn Staley helped Team USA’s women’s basketball team win gold at the ‘96 Olympics. It was the highlight of her career. Yet she fell into a depression...

Ghia Founder Melanie Masarin on Pitching the Risky Move
Melanie Masarin once pitched Glossier’s founder to do a pop-up at a former fried chicken shop. Her response? “I don’t get it, but I trust you.” It was...

Alice Waters on Why Profit Was Never the Point
Alice Waters never cared about making money. After more than 50 years in business, she still doesn’t. She opened her restaurant, Chez Panisse, with mo...

Thrive Causemetics Founder Karissa Bodnar on Why You Need Real Friends as a Leader
Karissa Bodnar once got advice from a peer – she needed real friends, not just “deal” friends. It wasn’t a dig. Entrepreneurship is lonely. And if Kar...

Top Chef Host Kristen Kish on the Recipe for a Great Mentor
Kristen Kish didn’t grow up dreaming of becoming the first woman of color to win Top Chef—or of one day hosting the show. She grew up in the Midwest a...

Geri Halliwell-Horner on the Legacy of (Spice) Girl Power
Geri Halliwell-Horner, aka Ginger Spice, practically invented girl power and forever holds a special place in our millennial hearts. In her twenties,...

Tinx on Returning to Her IRL Self, Christina
Tinx never set out to be known as “TikTok’s older sister.” But five years of real talk on taboo topics – dating in your 30s, botox, and having zero cl...

Frank & Eileen Founder Audrey McLoghlin on Fostering Resilience in Your Career
Audrey McLoghlin’s peer once compared her to a cockroach that could withstand nuclear warfare. Weird compliment? Maybe. But Audrey says she was touche...

Emily Oster on Turning Rejection into Redirection
Before Emily Oster became a go-to parenting expert, she was an econ professor waiting on a tenure decision at the University of Chicago. While waiting...

CNN’s Erin Burnett on Actually Using Your Transferable Skills
Erin Burnett flirted with the idea of becoming a CIA agent one day, drawn to the undercover thrills. Instead, she crunched numbers at Goldman Sachs as...

Julia Stiles on Manifesting a New Career Chapter
For millennial women, Julia Stiles needs no introduction. She portrayed some of our favorite characters growing up – like Kat in 10 Things I Hate Abou...

Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald on Levain Bakery’s 30-Year Climb to Success
Unlike MBA grads focused on scaling and selling companies, Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald built Levain Bakery with no intention of selling. Baking was...

CNN’s Laura Coates on Sacrificing Financial Independence for a Career Move
In 2015, Laura Coates traded courtroom drama for newsroom deadlines, leaving her job as a Justice Department prosecutor to dive into a journalism care...

Bobbie CEO Laura Modi on Making the Unpopular Move
Laura Modi’s organic baby formula company, Bobbie, thrived during a formula shortage that saw nearly 50% of the nation’s formula supply vanish. As des...

L’Oréal CMO Han Wen on The Power of Listening First
When Han Wen got a job at L’Oréal as an entry-level marketing associate, she didn’t even know what marketing was. The interviewers didn’t care. They s...

Mother Untitled’s Neha Ruch on Rebranding Stay-At-Home Motherhood
Neha Ruch chose to take an indefinite pause from work after having her second child. She immediately faced raised eyebrows and unsolicited advice. She...

Morgan Stanley CMO Alice Milligan on Why Your Career is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
Alice Milligan left home at 19 to escape a dysfunctional family life. Her peers went to college right out of high school. Meanwhile, Alice spent ten y...

Connie Chung on Outwitting the Boys Club
She’s an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment. Connie Chung is the trailblazing veteran broadcaster who worked her way up from being a copy-gir...

Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis on Prioritizing Your Mental Health as a Mom
Welcome back to a new season of 9 to 5ish. We’re kicking things off with Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis, two best friends and co-hosts of the show “Hon...

Build-A-Bear CEO Sharon Price-John on Why Defining Values is Key to Achieving Goals
Early in her career, Sharon Price-John literally put pen to paper and wrote what she dubbed her “price values.” AKA: the qualities that guided her in...

Jenny Slate on Finding Peace with Herself through Motherhood
Through her twenties and thirties, comedian Jenny Slate couldn’t find peace. By all accounts, she was succeeding. She earned a spot on Saturday Night...

NFL Reporter Erin Andrews on Addressing the “Shelf Life” of Her Career
Erin Andrews has become one of the most recognizable sideline reporters in the sports industry. She started out at ESPN in her early twenties, and eve...

Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego on Why Paid Family Leave is Good for Everyone
Before she decided to run for mayor, Kate Gallego was newly divorced with a young child. Her support system drastically changed after her mom was diag...

Eventbrite CEO Julia Hartz on Staying Innovative in Your Industry
Eventbrite CEO Julia Hartz said “I do” to Kevin Hartz twice: once when they got married, and again when she decided to become a co-founder with him. J...

Rachel Zoe on Finding Success Without a Plan
On the literal first day Rachel Zoe decided to be a freelance stylist, Tommy Hilfiger called her up to style a 2-week campaign with the biggest celebs...

Chef Claudette Zepeda on Building a Hospitality Empire as a Single Mom
Claudette Zepeda grew up as a border kid between San Diego and Tijuana. On top of that, she spent summers in Guadalajara, watching her aunt run a bust...

General Motors CEO Mary Barra on Making it in a Male-Dominated Industry
Mary Barra grew up in the suburbs of Detroit, aka: the heart of the auto industry. Her father worked at General Motors for 40 years, and Mary became a...

Jamie Kern Lima on Unlocking Your Self-Worth
Jamie Kern Lima sold her company, IT Cosmetics, for $1.2 billion to L’Oréal. The sale made Jamie the first female CEO of a L’Oréal brand and safe to s...

Special Episode: Governor Gretchen Whitmer on the Stakes for Women in this Election
Today, we’ve got a bonus episode of “9 to 5ish” for you with a guest whose name has been in the news a lot lately. Our guest is Gretchen Whitmer, the...

Venus et Fleur Founder Seema Bansal Chadha on Protecting Your Customer
When Seema Bansal Chadha was in her early twenties, she was in a very new, long distance relationship with a guy named Sunny. In classic LDR-status, h...